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--- tags : vTaiwan小松 --- # 20190313 vTaiwan 小黑客松 時間:2019-03-13 週三 19:00-21:00 地點:社會創新實驗中心 2F A9 會議室(地圖:https://goo.gl/maps/X65uN9PFXAo) 待辦事項區:[vTaiwan 待辦事項(歡迎認領工作)](https://g0v.hackpad.tw/vTaiwan--AuHFzoOJk7o) 出席:Eddie、乙潔、雨蒼、Tmonk、Ronny、Tasha、scott、peace、仔魚、怡孜、孟翰、au Wifi:PDIS_Public_5G/ji394pdis、startup99/306306306 主持人(facilitator):TMonk Translation:English 預定流程 18:30-19:00 報到 Arrival and Registration 19:00-19:15 開場、自我介紹 19:15-19:30 確認討論議程 19:30-21:00 討論&hacking 21:00-21:30 成果分享&決定下週主持人 下週主持人: 提案(自己的小松自己提案) --- 1. 回覆這兩天在 c4j 的 slido section 中因時間關係沒回覆到的問題,寄給 c4j workshop host ,[題目集](https://g0v.hackmd.io/Sn_WRCZ2TDmVkLVYtK6UFw?view) 分享(想跟大家分享的事情) --- 1. c4j workshop 心得分享, [c4j 隨行紀錄](https://g0v.hackmd.io/JWlLao4ZSwCnZDFKlV6G2A?view) TMonk:UDTalk 大家一起打字很有趣 peace:心情很像開了兩天大松,很多職員不敢去做健康檢查、要花兩天時間,跟不敢請假很像的意思;「提升女性在職場上的薪水及能力」政府推動的不是很努力。 2. [蘋果新聞專題 - 鋤不動的鑽石田 荒地金磚2.0](http://inv.appledaily.com.tw/farmland) TMonk:推薦大家看看這則報導,希望更多人給一些意見 3. [政府機關回饋平台](https://gov-feedback-web.appspot.com/) by Eddie Eddie:希望可以逼政府首長更加注重外面的意見,未來可以做一個反向的 Newsletter 仔魚:現在行政機關有輿情分,經濟部、中企處 hychen:衛生福利部 Eddie:可以利用這個板和平行機關連繫 Tasha:怎麼避免筆戰 Eddie:有討論比沒討論好,也可以做雙向的Newsletter 雨蒼:對外的聯絡窗口已經有很多了,如首長信箱1999,還有FB Eddie:交通部公路總局有一個很棒的論壇,但只是鎖在裡面 雨蒼:可以發文給所有公務機關請他們回饋有多少平台是可以問問題的,再串在一起,比較不會增加工作量 Eddie:但只要量增加的話還是會增加工作量 Ronny:Mr.Orz之前有一個Open1999的專案,跟各機關的首長信箱或管道,處理進度都是公開的,但最後都是接到原來的流程 Tasha:如果提一個議題是跨部會的,小編可能沒辦法處理 Eddie:目前網站設計是每一個訊息一定就要有一個對口機關 TMonk:公部門和私部門其實都想要有這種管道不然就不會有1999 Ronny: [政府除錯網](https://g0v.hackpad.tw/08bZIhOrt7v)by 雨蒼 , [給新北市研考會為民服務組的開放1999提案](https://g0v.hackpad.tw/-1999-20151012-tQoaOuOYp8U)by MrOrz, 一些過去類似的提案 hychen:資源有限,要怎麼處理代表性的問題? Eddie:有按讚機制,可以用類似twitter處理#的方式 雨蒼:公文產出的過程是公家機關的協作,上上下下來回改正 hychen:科長級以上很怕回網路輿論,如果是像FAQ讓內部公務員回過的問題不用再回就可以,但去年我也想做類似的工具,讓民眾可以發issue串回政府機關,怕會遇到文化的 gap Eddie:外聘通常知道的比公務員還多,但在這樣的環境上完全沒有發言權,可以匿名分享 hychen:有些冷門議題但也很重要,可能就沒有人討論 Eddie:如果有公開平台就可以讓有共同問題的人去合作 雨蒼:如果在還沒形成公部門共同意思前發言很容易被曲解,是很危險的事情 Tasha:做這些事情能不能有保障 hychen:前提是有很多人在用 Eddie:想解決的是不同部門之間的替代役能夠共同解決類似的問題 Tasha:從公部門的角度要去爬各種資料真的很麻煩,要是有平台可以整合真的會很方便 au:公共行政替代役已經消失了,沒有替代役的話就會剩下兩組人,可能就是法人和正規體系的人在使用 Tasha:爆料公社有點像 4. 如果用 vTaiwan workshop 的方式處理核能議題要如何討論? 日本人討論很難有一個讓民眾直接的說出自己的想法,像不吃核食、不尊重災民的想法會被視為禁忌討論。

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