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--- tags: cofacts, meeting note GA: UA-98468513-3 --- 20230308 會議記錄 ===== :::info - [所有會議記錄](https://g0v.hackmd.io/@mrorz/cofacts-meeting-notes/) - Workis: bil, mrorz - 線上出席:nonumpa - https://gather.town/app/z3x18KQFgZCX8MeZ/cofacts ::: ## :potable_water: Release pipeline ### :star: Released to production #### :globe_with_meridians: Site https://github.com/cofacts/rumors-site/releases/tag/release%2F20230307 - Remove UA, provide more detail doc into dataLayer #### :robot_face: rumors-line-bot https://github.com/cofacts/rumors-line-bot/releases/tag/release%2F20230307 - JA update - URL update ## 3 月小聚 > https://g0v.hackmd.io/r39Cc0RWT0GBuyOvLur2eA#%E4%B8%89%E6%9C%88%E5%B0%8F%E8%81%9A%E7%B1%8C%E5%82%99 - [x] 時間: 3/19 (日) 下午2-5點 https://thehapp.com/space/182 - 小樹屋 小樹屋 - 青梅 / 台北市中山區中山北路一段33巷16號1樓 $2920 (訂了13:30-17:30) ![](https://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/g0v-hackmd-images/uploads/upload_fc58568785f7b66a119efb3d0da4eb67.png) - 5 月基隆? - [ ] 食物?統編? 喝飲料ㄅ鄰鄰前一晚先去訂 - [ ] 時間: - 活動時間:14:00 - 17:00 - 時間分配 - 2:00 - 2:20 開場 - 影片 - 2:20 - 2:40 引導註冊網站、介紹評價現有回應 - 2:40 - 2:50 實作評價 - 2:50 - 3:10 介紹補充資訊 - 3:10 - 3:40 實作補充資訊、自我介紹、休息 - 3:40 - 4:10 介紹撰寫新回應 - 4:10 - 4:40 實作撰寫新回應 - 4:40 - 5:00 介紹分類、RSS、合照 - [ ] 投放目標:雙北 - [ ] KKTIX:https://cofacts.kktix.cc/events/cofactseditor35 - [ ] 誰會來呢:bil - [ ] 無法來: - [ ] LINE 文案:「真的假的?」台灣缺蛋!「澳洲空運500萬顆蛋來台,約重300噸,約需運費4000萬元」,可疑新聞橫飛,公民如何協力幫助對抗錯誤資訊呢? 3 月 19 日(日)下午 2 點到5點,帶上你的筆記型電腦用一個下午參與完全免費的 Cofacts 真的假的 志工培訓工作坊,讓你的善心成就更多查證過的正確訊息。 台北市中山區中山北路一段33巷16號1樓 (最近的捷運站:台北車站 M2 出口) ## CCPRIP ### [Comm Layer] Crowd-source transcript > @nonumpa 有找到 yjs 作者寫的 紀錄 version 跟 user 的 [Demo](https://demos.yjs.dev/prosemirror-versions/prosemirror-versions.html) [Code](https://github.com/yjs/yjs-demos/blob/main/prosemirror-versions/prosemirror-versions.js) 還在看要怎麼接到 tiptap 上 下禮拜應該可以給新的 design doc ### [Infra] Linode to Cloud run - [Linode price will raise on April 80USD/mo --> 96USD/mo](https://www.linode.com/docs/products/compute/compute-instances/guides/upcoming-pricing-changes-april-2023/) - rumors-site staging (tw) to Cloud run now ( https://dev.cofacts.tw ) - Continuous delivery 1. Push to github master branch, trigger cloud build GH app 2. Google cloud build: 1. builds image 2. push to cloud registry 3. trigger cloud run deploy 4. Cloud run takes request from custom domain - We no longer need Github action and docker hub in this case --> much simpler account management - Issues - Flexible SSL will cause infinite redirect - Cloud run automaticall 302 non-https to https - Cloudflare flexible SSL always uses http when redirecting traffic - Solved by setting `dev.cofacts.tw` to Full SSL using Cloudflare Configuration Rules ![](https://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/g0v-hackmd-images/uploads/upload_95291b348db177e59de112d2c7ccb378.png) - Need to move nginx response header (such as no bot & canonical URL) to Cloudflare Transform Rules - Who should do `cofacts.g0v.tw` 301 redirect after we shutdown nginx - https://301.ronny.tw/ - Longer cold start time - 3s - Cost estimation for GCP stack https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m_9UeSsSvwX-tFF1Uw2W-7pXie-n1_6bP99TUEFeQ6o/edit#gid=1715753836 ## GA4 > Design doc https://g0v.hackmd.io/cJFFXVzgT4OFT6bBLtulGg#-Site - More precise article & reply view count - `doc` data layer variable - `view_item` event https://g0v.hackmd.io/cJFFXVzgT4OFT6bBLtulGg?both#view_item-event-and-parameters BigQuery result ![](https://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/g0v-hackmd-images/uploads/upload_a7fe34a1672a2b6e0f173b908957246b.png) 此 event log 應可用於計算「article / reply 資料載入到網站」的計數。 ## Cofacts 價值 > 過去討論:https://g0v.hackmd.io/r39Cc0RWT0GBuyOvLur2eA#Cofacts-%E5%83%B9%E5%80%BC > Design decision: https://beta.hackfoldr.org/1yXwRJwFNFHNJibKENnLCAV5xB8jnUvEwY_oUq-KcETU/https%253A%252F%252Fhackmd.io%252Fs%252FBJxsXEc3g 承平時期、尚有餘裕的狀況下,盡可能持守以下價值(美德?) > 意即戰時可能有不同作法 來幫忙,不是來吵架 - 查核協作者說話的對像應是看到網傳訊息後心生懷疑的人 - 收到訊息的人也很困擾,罵傳訊息的人沒有幫助。 - 罵寫回應的人也沒有幫助。自己寫一篇影響力最大。 - 你寫的字,其他人傳到群組時,是用自己的身份 - 最高境界:即使他不同意你、與你不同立場,也覺得你的資訊有幫助。 擁抱協作,共享公開來源情報 - 當自己寫的內容進入聊天視窗,自己也只是一介網友。想要有說服力,就應該活用公開來源情報(OSI),包含公開的查核報告、新聞報導等等。 - 可以把找到一半的資訊放進補充資訊,分享給其他查核寫作者,一起集思廣益。 - 一起來練習抵抗假訊息,透過公共參與,擴大整個社會對假訊息的免疫力。 > 原本「公眾參與」的部分找不到地方放,所以塞在透明度這裡。或許對個別參與者來說,有興趣就已經是公共參與了,倒是不用特別提。但是,可以錨定大家在參與時,應該帶什麼東西進到平台來這件事——公開來源情報。目的是練習說話之類。 > > 「公眾參與」的感覺改成並肩作戰、不會孤單的感覺好了。 [name=mrorz] 朝向多元共融、公眾參與而努力 - 尊重不同性別、性取向、信仰、意識形態。 - 民主社會中對政府與對權力者的健康質疑,是多元性的展現。不同意者,則需持守「來幫忙,不是來吵架」的精神,參與公眾協作,提供不同觀點與公開來源情報。 - 仇恨言論不在多元共融的範疇內。傷害多元性的言論、意識型態,與多元的本質互斥,並非 Cofacts 平台樂見之內容。 - 主張減少公眾多元性、減少公眾參與的內容,例如認可獨裁者與壓迫言論者去入侵其他具有多元性之國家區域、減損其公眾參與力量,此類言論亦是在多元性的反面,亦非 Cofacts 平台樂見之內容。 > 一種表態。但這裡要注意平衡性,例如麥卡錫主義是否是為了維持自由開放的多元性,而犧牲少部分多元性等等,會很難一刀切。 [name=mrorz] > > 因為一刀切很難,可以寫得模糊一點,第四個有點太多,而且很難排除,所以可以不放。 [name=bil] > > 那就是請大家走第二點,不同意時,希望大家寫新內容來處理。 > [name=mrorz] ## Idea of using ChatGPT on Cofacts - 想了一些文字接龍適合的東西 [name=mrorz] - 顯然不適合直接查證,因為沒有網路 - [之前嘗試過的](https://www.facebook.com/johnsonliang/posts/pfbid02XTsgKgf4t5Sd4hw9hBoefFYwk9o3CvqrzrBUnP9pUsmZUa9qF9WA3AH2vyfLzUpl):給網傳訊息與網路資料,請它彙整不同意見 - Scenario 1: chatbot 上,使用送出或查到沒人回過的訊息 - 提醒哪些需要查 - 需注意哪一段情緒 - 輸入內容: - 影片:逐字稿 - 圖片:檢查辨識的文字 - CTA: 有什麼發現都可以補充分享 - Scenario 2: chatbot 剛回應一則很長的回應 - 提供易於分享版:summarize 內容 + 附上 Cofacts LIFF URL - Scenario 3: 在網站上給查核協作者 - Idealization: 哪些需要回應 (同 chatbot user)、哪些情緒需要照顧 - 把目前寫的,改寫成好懂的形式 (先總結再詳述) - AI 意見 (?) ## Plan for this week - 中女 小學校 media literacy - 把查核報告變成 IG 限動 - 青年局志工 - Demo - 確認有開帳號 週五 - lecture ## 傳單 - Users help Cofacts chatbot 會讓人以為主詞寫反 [name=mrorz] - Users send suspicous text and multimedia content from LINE to Cofacts chatbot (to help detect new hoax) - to help detect 太長想拿掉 [name=bil] - 但 detect 是關鍵字,強調從非公開到公開 [name=mrorz] - Influence: ... to ~~closed messaging app (LINE)~~ chatbot users Media literacy & network - different social status and minorities 講了兩次 XD Contact us LINE@ 換成 discord 因為 LINE@ 其實不能聯繫我們 - cofacts.tw/discord (用 cloudflare 導向)

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