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--- tags : vTaiwan小松 --- # 20190612 vTaiwan 小黑客松 時間:2019/06/12 週三 19:00-21:00 地點:社會創新實驗中心 2F A9 會議室(地圖:https://goo.gl/maps/X65uN9PFXAo) 待辦事項區:[vTaiwan 待辦事項(歡迎認領工作)](https://g0v.hackpad.tw/vTaiwan--AuHFzoOJk7o) 出席: Ronny, Steven, TMonk, 雨蒼, Allen, Wade, 仔魚, 怡孜, Peace, 愛, scott 線上組:Tumi, caasi 線上參與連結:https://meet.jit.si/vtaiwan Wifi:PDIS_Public_5G/ji394pdis、startup99/306306306 主持人(facilitator): Translation:[English](https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fg0v.hackpad.tw%2Fep%2Fpad%2Fstatic%2FleY4KC9wlOL&sandbox=1) 預定流程 18:30-19:00 報到 Arrival and Registration 19:00-19:15 開場、自我介紹 19:15-19:30 確認討論議程 19:30-21:00 討論&hacking 21:00-21:30 成果分享&決定下週主持人 下週主持人: 提案(自己的小松自己提案) --- * 仔魚:非動力交通工具or電動滑板路權 * 開 pol.is 搜集意見 * 利害關係人 * 交通部、警政 * 地方政府:地方局 * 交通道路管理條例 * 小米、Lime * 賽格威 Segway * ubike * 光陽、三陽 * * 日本法:繁忙的道路 * TMonk:這算不算是vTaiwan討論的範圍? * Ronny:和無人機、無人車類似 * * Ronny: vTaiwan 信箱討論 * vTaiwan到底是什麼? * 提案:有信進來的做法 1. 在當週小松前進行預告 2. 在小松時公開並討論回信內容 3. 經逾 3 人出席同意後,選定坑主回覆 * 可以參考g0v intl小組的文件:https://g0v.hackmd.io/Ozy9SKwORXOIBFiGdSkLtw * TMonk 擬草案:下週要預告 * 雨蒼:香港反送中 * 香港的網路好像被擋了: 有沒有不用 firechat 就可以傳輸訊息的方式? * https://www.slant.co/topics/7254/~cross-platform-secure-p2p-chat-application (?) * 直播情形 * 已延期 * 仔魚:社群治理 * 仔魚想要有的: * 決議紀錄 * 預告放哪才算公開:臉書社團&slack * 官網:挖坑增加公告區 * 出席人數 * 決議比例 * 雨蒼: * 可以等有紛爭出現的時候再處理 * 為什麼不用 vTaiwan 的 domain * 規則會綁手綁腳 * 沒有組織的組織 * [vTaiwan talk 服務條款](https://talk.vtaiwan.tw/tos) * Ronny: * 為了避免收割問題可能還是需要一個規則 * 建立一個草皮,讓大家可以自由進出 * CoC: https://talk.vtaiwan.tw/tos * 孜孜: * 應該先討論要不要domain * Wade: * 類似重大事件決定委員會 * Ronny: * 以 vTaiwan 身份公告 FB 需要經過什麼程序 * 雨蒼:PO slack,經三小時後沒有回應就可以貼 * Ronny:應區分緊急及非緊急情形 * 仔魚:如果有很奇怪的貼文,刪掉就好惹,刪文需經過幾人覆議?>>討論下去會沒完沒了,所以還是需要原則性的規範 * 可參考 [g0v fb 社群治理共筆](https://g0v.hackmd.io/vYdTfaYeR7SnIU3zT5evOw?both#g0vtw-email) * 仔魚: * 大事情:ex 社群守則的變動、決定流程的變動 * 預告 * 紀錄 * 出席人數 * 小事情:ex 以vTaiwan身份公告 FB 程度的事情 * 貼 slack 超過 6 個小時 & 超過 2 人附議 * 例行事項:ex 開小松、協作會議直播 * 例行事項不用預告就做吧 * scott:機器人怎麼弄?NO * * 大家可以去爭執是大事還是小事ㄛ * Ronny: [wikipedia 刪除方針](https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%88%A0%E9%99%A4%E6%96%B9%E9%92%88) * 愛:可以在小松抽籤出一群人進行審議及投票 * 仔魚:覺得可以人變更多的時候使用看看這種方式 * TMonk:明明現實不會遇到,但卻要事先規範好像沒有必要 * Allen:可以只正面表列需要決議的事項? * TMonk:還有什麼可能會遇到的具體案例? * 仔魚:記者 * 記者/社群/紀錄片導演/關心社會議題的民眾寄email問vTaiwan的事情 * 約訪 * 問問題 * 之前仔魚的做法 * 預告 * 小松問大家(如果有很多提問的話,開一個共筆讓大家回答) * 開信給大家看 * 由小松決定回應的方向 * 由坑主寫信回覆 * 孜孜:改在 slack 預告&最近的一次小松(共筆&線上)參與討論 * 愛:可以建立標準擬答 * TMonk:開共筆,記者把提問放上面,大家自己寫 * Steven:套用在剛才的原則,這算是大還是小事情? * 結論(原則) * 在 slack 公開就對惹 * 決定大方向,細節和具體情形等發生再說 * TODO list * TMonk 先寫草案再說 >w< * Scott 要做一鍵式開小松腳本(?) * https://ypwalter.blogspot.com/2018/06/sikuli-sikulix.html * 隨機抽出一個人負責開小松,\恭喜您/ * slack bot 隨機抽人 * 俄羅斯轉盤 * Scott:太花俏了! * 命名:vTaiwan 教召 * https://g0v.hackmd.io/bs1GUoX4TcSgid7NR-fljA 分享 --- * TMonk:臉書說明會 * 下次再說 * 仔魚:韓國 Parti 首爾公共事務 * 來玩townhall http://townhall.kr/ * 下次再說 * Ronny: 第一次電視松 * [回信給公視](https://g0v.hackmd.io/CiFY9waBTdK_kjFOHhOkWw) * Ronny: 青平台審議式民主講義 * Tmonk: [vTaiwan 論文](https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/xyhft/) * RYO CAN,Ai: * USA+Netherland+Auztralia and WTO defined it as ICD International Classified Disease * Lady Gaga's Netflix Documentary Film introduce their life and challenges * Mrs. Yeh's report by journalist : Supporting suffers and their families, employers * Diagnosis handbook/SOP/Reference for Health Pulic Education * Raise the Pulic Awareness * Filmming Japan, Taiwan, UK, Singapore, ASEAN and BhuTan, EU and Africa etc. 12 Actually LOVE Based-on TRUE Stories * http://www.tfrd.org.tw/tfrd/library_d/content/id/2328 * https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/life/paper/1286035 todo(想在小松完成的事情) --- * 仔魚:回BBC信 * 仔魚:更新官網 vtaiwan 基金餘額 --- * 本日花費: 1080元(三盒 pizza) * 本日現場贊助: * 捐款: * 餘額:

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