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--- tags: cofacts, meeting note --- 20191002 會議記錄 ===== bil, orz, 文武 ggm (沒飲料) NPOst 記者 (沒飲料) :::danger 20191009 開會暫停一次 ::: > 上次開會紀錄:https://g0v.hackmd.io/oOEz-UpNQOS-n7isB45MNg > ## 小聚rundown https://cofacts.kktix.cc/events/cofacteditor15 - 誰會來呢?bil, mrorz, 文武 - 攜帶 - [x] 貼紙 - bil - [x] 簽到單 --> KKTIX 可列印 - mrorz - [x] Wifi 機 - mrorz - [ ] Netgear 本體 - [ ] usb type-c 充電線與插座 - [ ] 電池 - [ ] 4G 天線 - 忘記了!!! - [ ] Asus RT-N12 - [ ] 電源線 - [ ] 5dBi 天線 - [ ] RJ45 線 - [ ] Router - 場地:青平台 - [x] 食物 - 當天決定,2:10pm 下訂單, include 青平台 - 13:30 - 場佈, 在樓下帶人 - [x] 拿著編輯小聚牌子在樓下等 - bil - [x] 排桌子椅子 - [x] 麥克風 - [x] 電梯間引導牌子 - [x] WIFI - [ ] 佈機x2 - [ ] 連結 netgear 與 asus WAN port - [ ] 白板寫 SSID Cofacts meetup(_5G) + wifi password - [ ] 192.168.2.1 進入 netgear admin 看 asus 的 IP - [ ] 開好兩台 router admin 監測連網狀態 - [ ] (optional) netgear 換成 5GHz only? - [x] Slido - 白板寫 slido number - [x] 產生本日 spreadsheet - 文武 - [x] 貼社團 - [x] 生短網址貼 slide - [x] [產生 QR code](http://www.quickmark.com.tw/cht/qrcode-datamatrix-generator/default.asp?qrLink) 貼 slide - [x] 投影的電腦開好: - [x] browser tab: [投影片]((https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1QCAPtwkxreQ4EUtIWsOgR4c8h4tkRs22Qvv7jBFNrfI/edit#slide=id.p)) - [x] browser tab: [Instant](http://cofacts.g0v.tw/instant) - [x] browser tab: [KKTIX](https://cofacts.kktix.cc/events/cofacteditor16) - [x] browser tab: [Slido](https://wall.sli.do/event/orysnkjm?section=288aa08c-69c3-4469-8b14-c213a90fc921&info_modal_version=v1) - [x] BGM - 14:00 - 14:20 自我介紹&真的假的闢謠簡介 - 14:20 - 16:00 很有效率光速闢謠100分 - 16:10 - 16:40 闢謠也聊聊時間 / slido 大哉問 - 16:40 - 17:00 自由交流 & 大合照 :::danger - [x] 開場使用材料更新:https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1QCAPtwkxreQ4EUtIWsOgR4c8h4tkRs22Qvv7jBFNrfI/edit#slide=id.g1ffc87ef17_0_23 - [x] 改[instant文案](https://github.com/cofacts/rumors-site/blob/master/pages/instant.js#L9-L87) - https://github.com/cofacts/rumors-site/issues/167 ::: ## 宜蘭社大 > 活動主題:「讀」新聞?「毒」新聞? > 討論議題:拒絕被動接受假消息!理性判斷很重要! > 活動日期:108年10月29日(二) > 活動時間:晚上7:00~9:10 > bil: 如果是在有電腦的地方,不嫌棄的話可以線上與談 :::success GGM 會去 ::: ## 敬邀真的假的Cofacts團隊 擔任11/16(六)「新聞與言論自由論壇-假新聞的起源、目的與產出結構」與談人事宜 :::success MrOrz 參加完 g0v 忘年會之後出席與談 ::: ## 分析「請問您在哪裡看到這個訊息」 ### 「在哪裡看到此訊息」能否擋住亂傳 ![](https://g0vhackmd.blob.core.windows.net/g0v-hackmd-images/upload_9c4f6800b268d7ce4e7ab54e40fa239c) 「自己輸入的」的數量: - 即時資料: https://datastudio.google.com/reporting/8b715296-0032-4c46-bb2e-9da8db6c19c3 - Raw Log (2019/9/01~2019/9/30) - 非公開: https://datastudio.google.com/reporting/9e3389be-a839-44bd-9d23-c3e4460a5be4 - 顯示「在哪裡看到的」選項: 2,811 (100%) - 使用者選擇「自己輸入的」: 174 (6%) - 使用者選擇其他選項: 1,169 (42%) - 使用者沒有後續選擇: 1,468 (52%) 「自己輸入的」的文句,與其他選項的文句 ggm: 讓他選有個意義是可以知道從哪裡來的 但那個官方帳號的不知道要不要多一個分類 寫 LINE@ 給他選好像也不錯 mrorz 可是現在是不是不叫 LINE@ 【方案1】 之前想的分類:https://github.com/cofacts/rumors-line-bot/issues/121#issuecomment-507626233 但是會重複 例如說永和教堂 是地方還是宗教 ggm 這樣大家就會不知道要選哪一個 orz 還是就 5 個選項 【方案2】 1. 有人在 LINE 群組裡分享的 2. 有人用 LINE 傳給我的 3. LINE 官方帳號廣播 4. 我在 LINE 外頭看到的 5. 我自己寫的 4, 5 --> 陷阱 - - - 【方案3】 LIFF 版 1. LINE 裡面看到的:(輸入框)(選填) 2. 我在 LINE 外頭看到的 3. 我自己寫的 orz: 但 LIFF 要用按鈕請他點開然後再點擊或輸入, 填完之後直接在裡頭完成填理由送出 ggm 這樣似乎會看不出來群組跟官方 其實滿多人會問「你知道謠言是哪裡來的嗎」 - - - 【方案4】 LIFF 版 1. LINE 群組裡看到的:(輸入框)(選填) 2. LINE 官方帳號廣播的:(輸入框)(選填) 3. 有人私下用 LINE 傳給我的 4. 我在 LINE 外頭看到的 5. 我自己寫的 orz: 但 LIFF 要用按鈕請他點開然後再點擊或輸入, 填完之後直接在裡頭完成填理由送出 bil 可以慢慢改,不要一開始就放輸入框,讓大家練習(在 LIFF 裡)選 radio button 讓大家練習 orz 先看官方帳號多不多 還是群組多 還是私訊多 再決定要不要 input 也可以 :::success - 【現狀】親戚 同事 朋友 自己 : - 【方案1】自己 家族 宗教 地方 公共議題 官方 私訊 其他 : - 【方案2】群組 私訊 官方 外面 自己 : bil - 【方案3】LINE裡(輸入框) 外面 自己 (整合理由發送) : - 【方案4】群組(輸入框) 官方(輸入框) 私訊 外面 自己 (整合理由發送) : ggm, bil(無選填,只有選項) - - - --> 【方案4】但是是沒有輸入框的版本 仍然使用 LIFF,未來保留彈性 Ticket: https://github.com/cofacts/rumors-line-bot/issues/145 ::: ### 目前資料是否有用(選項鑑別度) > 來自官方帳號的訊息要選哪個?「官方帳號推播」選項? :::success 見上述討論,改選項。 Ticket: https://github.com/cofacts/rumors-line-bot/issues/145 ::: ## Facebook bot > Last discussion: https://g0v.hackmd.io/@GuJ5fZ3uR-O09mlTi1w2UQ/rJUCYp2SB#Facebook-chatbot > Github issue: https://github.com/cofacts/rumors-fb-bot/issues/4 ### 公告 FB bot 上線文案 :::info 粉絲頁、社團、LINE 主頁、LINE bot 公告 ::: ## Rumors-site 升級 next9 PR: - New reply form: https://github.com/cofacts/rumors-site/pull/168 - Connect reply: TBA 1. [x] Article list --> PR to dev 2. [ ] Article page (見 API 更新) 3. [ ] Reply list 4. [ ] reply page ### 主機轉移 ES 對外 :::success 下一次來做 :::

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