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--- tags: journalism, disinfo --- 假消息聊聊天 ===== ## 為何要談 * 3/27 邀請 g0v-talk 談:「假消息如何影響民主價值─2018年台美選舉之觀察」 * [chihao 3/21 update] 邀請取消囉 XD * 社群不少人都關注此議題,sync一下.... > ++[name=chihao] ## 聊什麼? ### ▌抱怨一下 - 主流媒體根本沒在做事實查核 - 對於主流媒體的假消息,沒有有效的課責機制 ### ▌g0v 社群、網路科技、公民科技做了什麼? - 群眾外包闢謠: - 新聞小幫手(已關閉) - [新聞小幫手暫停服務說明](https://g0v.hackmd.io/s/SJAsWQhs7) - Cofacts - 美玉姨 - 用科技追蹤新聞報導內容有沒有偷改 - http://newsdiff.g0v.ronny.tw/ ### ▌科技的限制 - 「造謠靠張嘴,闢謠跑斷腿」 - ronny:會願意找工具的人,本身就有求證精神,誤導訊息對他們影響也不大,而容易受到誤導訊息影響的人完全不會接觸到這些工具,科技幫助不到他們。 - chihao:接觸不到 +1 空戰完全無效的感覺 ### ▌其他 talking point: - Facebook 就是靠假新聞(和出賣隱私)獲利的(ronny說的,炸!), > [name=Ronny Wang] FB 就是希望使用者在瀏覽塗鴉牆時越無腦越好,這樣子使用者可以很無腦順暢的一直滑,才能增加 FB 插入廣告的曝光率,如果出現一篇跟使用者價值觀有衝突的文章時,很容易讓使用者突然需要動腦而停頓下來,所以 FB 目標是促進同溫層效應,多給你你想看但不一定要是正確的東西,打擊假新聞反而對 FB 利益有害。 - 市長選舉辯論會(沃草)做了**即時**實施查核,但跟選舉結果沒有正相關(?) > [name=chihao] 都加班了你還想要我怎樣 QQ - 假消息跟闢謠的效果很不對稱,假消息散布率很強,澄清沒人有興趣轉貼,事後處罰更正機制幫助不大 - 公視法:要有相同版面「澄清」 - 科技工具或許可以幫助闢謠省力,但是前提是該使用者已經有媒體識讀觀念會有所懷疑,本身就有查證精神。麻煩的是絕大多數使用者價值觀放在是非對錯之前,科技工具也不太可能觸及他們。 - 政府介入? - Ronny: 我個人反對政府可以要求下架他們認定的不實消息,因為我們不能確定政府做的是闢謠還是控制言論。但是我認為或許可以給政府權限,政府可以第一時間要求平台上在政府認為的不實消息中,旁邊以夠顯眼的型式附上政府的澄清訊息,並且政府需要定期完整公布他們採用這個插入式澄清的完整記錄。這樣既不會使言論被控管,又可以讓瀏覽者平衡觀看雙方說法。 - 媒體自律? - 媒體識讀? - 民主價值 - 媒體的商業模式 - Ronny: 大部份媒體主要靠點閱率和廣告曝光,新聞正確性對他們的商業並沒有幫助。 目前為止可以想到的假訊息來源? - ROC government agencies - 例如:洪仲丘、普悠瑪、媽媽嘴(檢察官放新聞) - Taiwanese mainstream media - 例如:蘇啟誠 - Ptt - Politicians - 例如:韓國瑜 - Individuals - 例如:一些很可怕的 Fb profiles? - [actors?](https://hackmd.io/PHmySf2gTvmOnX8KyQqjGw#) - Closed chat groups - 完全不知道⋯ - Religious and interest groups - 例如:同婚、性平 ## 怎麼聊? - 3/27 在台南有一個 presentation,可以聊聊社群對假消息現況的想法 - 之後是不是來個深度聊天會 follow up? ## 受訪紀錄/共筆 ## 過去 cofact 接受的採訪可能有觸及到類似的主題 > Cofacts++ mrorz++ - [201812 彭博商業周刊中文版採訪共筆](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C4HiuXfcRgmWCta_0nZk8VbeSqV2VpK4G7lZv7VkIrA/edit) - [201810 The Diplomat Interview note](https://docs.google.com/document/d/112floc_56IaTe5J5s6hu8GFifkt5DgReLZU_e4bv80k/edit?usp=sharing) - [201809 TNLi interview notes](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iopYuuv-nl-81gofjTg-SfOuvid8i5nZk_e0xpLO6Xw/edit#) - [201807 The splice newsroom interview note](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZSvtfzJxpFR6QGRc6ryeirP1AueoOOVriOMR1fTfpwM/edit?usp=sharing) - [201807 Deutsche Welle Brasil interview note](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uelEPp3TkGjLYXjxpx5W5P7y78h9YWYaVVUt7s3CpGk/edit?usp=drivesdk) - [201806 Taipei Times interview note 採訪共筆](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fqaFitUqdO4tEI2rurGd8-5nSlUzxGLNNX04SbKIkPs/edit) - [201804 遠見雜誌採訪共筆](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G5_v7fEF9D6qlXAJh0KyAwyPAw01Mnrbfk9UIBFnS_E/edit) - [201804 交大傳科研究所訪談](https://hackpad.tw/ep/pad/static/X1i6gJNdsZH) ## 相關科技 - [deep fake detection](https://www.deeptracelabs.com/) - [trace fake news footprint](https://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-csail-machine-learning-system-detects-fake-news-from-source-1004) ## 相關法律 - [德國網路執行法](https://www.bmjv.de/SharedDocs/Gesetzgebungsverfahren/Dokumente/NetzDG_engl.pdf)

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