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--- tags : vTaiwan小松 --- # 20191127 vTaiwan 小黑客松 時間:2019/11/27 週三 19:00-21:00 地點:社會創新實驗中心 2F A9 會議室( 地圖:https://goo.gl/maps/X65uN9PFXAo ) 待辦事項區:[vTaiwan 待辦事項(歡迎認領工作)](https://g0v.hackpad.tw/vTaiwan--AuHFzoOJk7o) 出席:Ronny, Scott, 乾庸, 伊庭, peace, 虹文, 孟翰, ddio, 哲輔, 怡孜、姵璇、仔魚 線上組: 線上參與連結:https://meet.jit.si/vtaiwan Wifi:PDIS_Public_5G/ji394pdis、startup99/306306306 主持人(facilitator): Translation:[English](https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fg0v.hackpad.tw%2Fep%2Fpad%2Fstatic%2FleY4KC9wlOL&sandbox=1) 預定流程 18:30-19:00 報到 Arrival and Registration 19:00-19:15 開場、自我介紹 19:15-19:30 確認討論議程 19:30-21:00 討論&hacking 21:00-21:30 成果分享&決定下週主持人 下週主持人: 提案(自己的小松自己提案) --- - 透明足跡計畫:掃條碼出奇蹟,揭開商品背後看不見的資訊 - 綠色公民行動聯盟(反核、能源轉型、透明足跡) - 透明足跡,四年前開始啟動/兩年前網站上線。 - 從資料開始,推動企業環境表現改變/補上政府管制漏洞 - APP構想,透過條碼,得到背後的食安/衛生/環境/勞工資料/產品內含成分 - 食安資料:各地政府開放程度相當不一,針對食安資料的具體內容,目前尚在盤點中。 - 勞動資料:同食安資料,需要去看什麼樣的勞動資料,勞權相關的比較查得到。 - 跨領域cross-check:例如賣飼料油的公司勞動紀錄也很糟糕。 - 條碼資料:[GS1公司前置碼查詢](http://www.gs1tw.org/twct/web/codesearch.jsp?REGIST=01) ![](https://g0vhackmd.blob.core.windows.net/g0v-hackmd-images/upload_8e732e0b8f0ef783e0be1399e36d02bd) - 智財局有整理商標登記資料,可以看使用上有沒有需要納入一起作為識別方式。 - 商品成分(塑膠微粒、食品添加物、重金屬含量等) - 商品比較功能 - LINEBOT使用可能性? - 是否有產品比較的需求? - 階段性成果:使用Python [GITHUB](https://github.com/Coopathon2019/13_thaubing/blob/master/main.py) - api: https://thaubing.gcaa.org.tw/json/corp/%7B%E7%B5%B1%E4%B8%80%E7%B7%A8%E8%99%9F%7D - 客群設定:APP與LINEBOT的取向不同 - 對使用者的想像是什麼 - 呈現結果要如何處理 - 資訊呈現的前台設計 - 針對不同商品是否要有不同的呈現 - 要不要針對一個商品去執行 - 社會學與心理學的脈絡去設計使用者的一天,來決定怎麼規劃產品。 - 問卷:詢問群眾對於不同產品的想像 - 需要什麼樣的反饋結果。 - 使用者什麼時候會想要掃。 - 使用者回饋機制 - 有沒有設計網頁版的需求? - 條碼對應到特定的公司,條碼是看不出產品的 (公司名稱是公開資料/可以看出產品,只是是非公開資料) - 美國類似的app - [buycott](https://www.buycott.com/campaign/browse):可以訂閱關注不同議題去自訂自己的filter - 台灣類似的app - [冰的啦](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oriand.whosbad) - Steven:其實我們還沒認真討論過「人臉辨識」這題 - 有哪些討論面向? - Pending - 針對私部門的限制 - 針對公部們的限制 - 便利商店的鏡頭做人臉辨識 - 從個資法角度切入? - 個資法定義上的個人資料:指自然人之姓名、出生年月日、國民身分證統一編號、護照號碼、特徵、指紋、婚姻、家庭、教育、職業、病歷、醫療、基因、性生活、健康檢查、犯罪前科、聯絡方式、財務情況、社會活動及其他得以直接或間接方式識別該個人之資料。 - 想討論的是蒐集?處理?利用? - 人臉不是個資? - Ronny:比起禁止個人覺得更應該讓私部門負揭露義務 - 告知的方式 - ddio:同意的程序可能要比照血液研究 - 資料的處理和利用 - 要討論的話應該找[國發會個人資料保護專案辦公室](https://www.ndc.gov.tw/Content_List.aspx?n=726A44EA5D724473) - 開議題共筆:https://g0v.hackmd.io/kNrhqh7VR8KJ1uoCwJjfIw?view - Ronny:應該要來研究一下Decidim - 目前西班牙的某個城市(馬德里?)有實際使用 - 查一下他們的case - 台灣比較常用 polis (只有徵集和分類意見), vTaiwan 可以討論的政策也有限 - 可以推廣一套容易透過網路政策討論的工具 - homework大家回家試玩一下 - 邀請小班帶卡片來分享一下 - [多倫多也有用 decidim 討論](https://www.i-media.tw/news/detail.html?id=14469) - [Social Value International](https://svic2019.socialvalue.org.tw/) https://www.sametri.ca/ IMPACT REPORTS https://www.sopact.com/ Impact Measurement https://www.shanzhai.city/ 分享 --- todo(想在小松完成的事情) --- 小松果 --- - 綠色公民行動聯盟來介紹透明足跡,尋求建議或入坑: - 你在購物時,會因為什麼因素會特別花時間挑選該買什麼牌子呢? - 太多討論了~詳見共筆:https://reurl.cc/nVypGd - 人臉辨識技術之管制(名稱暫定)議題開坑: - https://reurl.cc/L1V2G4 - Decidim: - 請小班有空來分享 - 大家回家試玩一下 - 連結在這裡:https://decidim.org/ - Social Value International Conference - 有想要提供介紹方向的,請寫在共筆! vtaiwan 基金餘額 --- * 本日花費: * 本日現場贊助: * 捐款: * 餘額:

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