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--- tags: cofacts, meeting note GA: UA-98468513-3 --- 20221109 會議記錄 ===== :::info - [所有會議記錄](https://g0v.hackmd.io/@mrorz/cofacts-meeting-notes/) - 線上出席:cai - Workis 出席:mrorz, bil, sean - https://gather.town/app/z3x18KQFgZCX8MeZ/cofacts ::: ## :potable_water: Release pipeline ### :star: Released to production #### :robot_face: rumors-line-bot LINE bot multi-language https://github.com/cofacts-/rumors-line-bot/releases/tag/release%2F20221103 ## 重複圖 log > https://g0v.hackmd.io/QPTHTIGEQpGgyYrDxNOMCQ#%E9%87%8D%E8%A4%87%E6%A1%88%E4%BE%8B > - 五篇均是由同一使用者 `j4S8C_gdYIUB5gHC5ZV6hNnan7AsbMR6cToAj09IeFMIV3XW8` 送出 - 時間相差不到 1 秒 - 2022-10-28T12:51:31.124Z: `ZYulHoQBv5it-Cx_xJHM` - 2022-10-28T12:51:31.030Z: `ZIulHoQBv5it-Cx_xJFa` - 2022-10-28T12:51:30.773Z: `YoulHoQBv5it-Cx_w5Fb` - 2022-10-28T12:51:30.704Z: `YYulHoQBv5it-Cx_w5Ec` - 2022-10-28T12:51:30.770Z: `Y4ulHoQBv5it-Cx_w5Fd` - Log - `12:51:29.088Z` 傳送影片;回傳「你要請人查查這則訊息嗎?」 - `12:51:31.196Z` "Yes" 按鈕;回傳 `YoulHoQBv5it-Cx_w5Fb` - `12:51:31.221Z` "Yes" 按鈕;回傳 `Y4ulHoQBv5it-Cx_w5Fd` - `12:51:31.423Z` "Yes" 按鈕;回傳 `ZIulHoQBv5it-Cx_xJFa` - (下面應該都是類似的) - 所以是手抖+沒有重新 search [name=mrorz] - 「送出」按鈕已經顯示給使用者了,按下去之後也不會消失,所以可以一口氣按很多次 - 每次按送出時都重新 search 的 cost 有點高,而且也不一定擋得住 - 是否要改成 quick reply 這樣只能按一次? [name=mrorz] - [2022/04 討論](https://g0v.hackmd.io/pGl4iqVKRXed7opCK_txVw#%E9%80%81%E5%87%BA%E8%A8%8A%E6%81%AF%E6%B5%81%E7%A8%8B%E6%98%AF%E5%90%A6%E4%BD%BF%E7%94%A8-quick-reply): 不要用 quick reply 因為桌面版不支援 - [似乎無解](https://www.line-community.me/en/question/600859e3851f74bb9ca1e28e?answerid=6009a2fe401690d0b656765b) - 亦可在送出時修改 redis context 使第二次點按失效(?) [name=mrorz] - 在 redis 寫入目前正在上傳的 message ID、成功後刪除之類? ## Interview 以下項目以 Email 主旨紀錄: ### 需面訪 - TaiwanPlus News - 後兩週:citizen lab - 未來的週三均可,但提到可能有其他拍攝組 ### 待填 - Taipei Times / 華語,deadline 不明 ### 已交回、待出刊 - Media request: Interview about Cofacts and disinformation in Taiwan / 英語,10/21 已交 ### 已出刊,需問授權 - 關鍵評論網-未來大人物想來約採訪時間 / 華語,10/25 已出刊 - 好像刪掉了!!!囧 [name=mrorz] - https://www.thenewslens.com/article/175211 - https://becomingaces.com/article/238 ## Open data usage - 收到來信,用來 train AI - 過去 CC0 時政治學者有用過 - 現在 CC BY-SA 也有人說是拿來 train AI (open data 的表單回應) - 很難查是否有 attribution 與 share alike - 開共筆 追開放進度嗎 [name=cai] > 「同學 功課寫完記得到XXX補上分享連結阿」 - 蒐集開放資料的影響力、放進影響力報告 [name=mrorz] - 3rd party chatbot, III platform - 有 by - 但不知道是否有 derived work 來 share alike - IORG 明確遵守按照資料使用條款 - 明確有 derived work (報告) - 標記:符合條款 https://iorg.tw/da/25 - share alike:有公告 https://iorg.tw/open :::success - 以 IORG 做榜樣來進行溝通 - 開共筆追蹤 ::: ## Error rate 增加問題 ![](https://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/g0v-hackmd-images/uploads/upload_ea0c7caf58ec3754a031802f225a58da.png) - 前面沒有這樣 - 11/6 之後也沒有這樣 - 以下為日本時間 ![](https://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/g0v-hackmd-images/uploads/upload_1537768d15638edc8d3285cc6fb2c258.png) (中略) ![](https://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/g0v-hackmd-images/uploads/upload_e04aeb54d4354de4e51ad2249a3b0c82.png) 當天台灣時間 20:00 左右(日本時間 21:00)確實比較忙錄 ![](https://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/g0v-hackmd-images/uploads/upload_178448c93aa2c2b31c56525a72b1ad41.png) 21:00 (日本時間 22:00) 時有大量 nginx 499 研判是有爬蟲爬網站 + rumors-site 又發作吃很多 CPU ![](https://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/g0v-hackmd-images/uploads/upload_57e192b542c369f8d9a484dea145d7da.png) - 原因不明的老問題 - rumors-site 會吃大量 CPU 使整台機器卡死 - 之前都靠 cronjob 重開 site 來 unblock - 可以考慮 Cofacts 網站重拉 data flow + Typescript + nextjs 13 - SSR 只出特定的欄位,用 prop 傳進 page component,不要放進 apollo cache 再整個 cache serialize 傳到 FE - 考慮 [ISR](https://nextjs.org/docs/basic-features/data-fetching/incremental-static-regeneration),或甚至直接改成 [server component](https://beta.nextjs.org/docs/rendering/fundamentals) - Data flow 變複雜,靠 Typescript 確保資料有 load ## CCPRIP - Google cloud https://g0v.hackmd.io/BRsJOevWSbyUMBSZEVVWrA?view#Proposal ## 小聚 - [ ] 時間: - 11/20 (日) 13:30-17:30 - [ ] 場地:NPO HUB 2F key holder :Ronny - 台北市中正區重慶南路三段 2 號 2 樓 - [ ] 食物?統編? - [ ] 時間:2022/11/20 - 活動時間:14:00 - 17:00 - 時間分配 - 2:00 - 2:20 開場 - 影片 - 2:20 - 2:40 引導註冊網站、介紹評價現有回應 - 2:40 - 2:50 實作評價 - 2:50 - 3:10 介紹補充資訊 - 3:10 - 3:40 實作補充資訊、自我介紹、休息 - 3:40 - 4:10 介紹撰寫新回應 - 4:10 - 4:40 實作撰寫新回應 - 4:40 - 5:00 介紹分類、RSS、合照 - [ ] 投放目標:雙北 + 基隆 - [x] KKTIX:https://cofacts.kktix.cc/events/cofactseditor33 - [ ] 誰會來呢:bil, mrorz, nonumpa - [ ] 無法來: - [ ] LINE 文案 假新聞四處亂竄,對於厭煩吵架與對立的你,如果用一個下午的時間,參與本次志工活動,將可以對社會創造偉大的貢獻! Cofacts 真的假的 在11月20日本週日下午 2 點- 5點 ,徵求新的查核協作志工,活動完全免費,現場供應點心,邀請你的到訪與參與!用鍵盤與智慧,為周圍的朋友與大家帶來和諧的力量。 (記得帶筆記型電腦與充電線唷!) 時間:11月20日(日) 下午 2 點- 5點 地點:台北市中正區重慶南路三段 2 號 2 樓 最近的捷運站是中正紀念堂站2號出口 ## 違規檢舉 > 有人檢舉此編輯在幫 39health.com.tw 打廣告 > https://cofacts.github.io/community-builder/#/editorworks?showAll=1&day=365&userId=XosaNoQBv5it-Cx_Paln > 確實所有的出處都來自這個網站,而且出處跟原文關係有點薄弱。 > 該網站看起來應該是從中國網站 http://www.39.net/ 搬運文章的網站。要如何處理好呢? * 這兩天觀察,似乎不只一位,回一小時內的文 [name=cai] https://cofacts.tw/article/3fko78ebzuoix https://cofacts.tw/article/2bc7vikk8gwwg - 豬頭 https://cofacts.github.io/community-builder/#/editorworks?type=1&day=365&userId=vIvGN4QBv5it-Cx_86vF&showAll=1 - Stephinie https://cofacts.github.io/community-builder/#/editorworks?type=0&day=7&userId=XosaNoQBv5it-Cx_Paln&showAll=1 - Phoebe https://cofacts.github.io/community-builder/#/editorworks?type=0&day=365&userId=84s1N4QBv5it-Cx_IqqQ&showAll=1 - 多人使用同一網站的來源,CIB [name=bil] :::success 先貼 FB group 公告 :::

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