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--- tags: cofacts, meeting note GA: UA-98468513-3 --- 20210922 會議記錄 ===== :::info - [所有會議記錄](https://g0v.hackmd.io/@mrorz/cofacts-meeting-notes/) - 線上出席:mrorz, bil, nonumpa, 4000 - https://gather.town/app/z3x18KQFgZCX8MeZ/cofacts ::: ## 小聚 rundown - 週三會議 - [x] 週四 8 pm schedule > > https://cofacts.kktix.cc/events/cofacteditor26 > > 柚子不能跟優酪乳一起吃?真的假的啊??? > 假的假的,每到中秋節,這則謠言就會捲土重來。 > 謠言不死,隔年再來。 > > 2021年 9 月 25 日(六)下午 2 點到 4 點,線上查核編輯小聚,邀請從來沒有參加過查核志工活動的你,在家裡看著電腦,就能輕鬆成為鍵盤志工,幫助其他遇到假訊息的朋友與家人。 > 線上志工聚會,免費,超級歡迎沒有參加過的新手,提供線上查核技巧教學。 > > 雖然柚子跟優酪乳或是香蕉一起吃不會中毒,但如果正在服藥,就真的不建議同時吃柚子或是葡萄柚喔! - 圖:https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/135jJfKP66LJzHCx_0oinV11I3mPeGZlI Lucien++ - 目標:除北北基桃外的所有人,目標 108,500 人 - random 70,000 人 - [kktix 22nd](https://cofacts.kktix.cc/events/cofacteditor22) audience 27,750 --> 報名 18,所以 audience 77,000 --> 報名 50? - [x] 換 rich menu - [x] 準備 jitsi - https://meet.jit.si/moderated/eae854318e312b7c8822609fc01dd25f1f40e4b4470aff1a60c05c2a8e45ae04 - [x] 填寫 kktix「線上虛擬場館」設定 - 週五早上 - [x] KKTIX 行前通知:jitsi 網址、提醒時間、使用電腦而非手機 > Hello 你好, > > 明天就是 9 月 25 日的線上編輯小聚囉! > 編輯小聚需要大量查詢資料,請使用電腦 💻 並帶著愉快的心情來參加。 > > 時間:9/25(六)14:00 > Google Chrome 線上參與:https://meet.jit.si/moderated/eae854318e312b7c8822609fc01dd25f1f40e4b4470aff1a60c05c2a8e45ae04s > > 費用全免,會很準時開始。 > > Cofacts 真的假的 查核協作 VIP 臉書社團在這裡 👉 https://www.facebook.com/groups/cofacts > 請先加入吧=D說你會來編輯小聚優先加入(真的) > > 感謝你的閱讀。 > > 那麼明天見囉😊 > > 比鄰敬上 - [x] 開場使用材料更新:https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1N9DxoN1NuxdtQILkcV67y_q8EM8CJF5GhoYLcCKFpAc/edit [name=mrorz] - [x] 準備空 Spreadsheet + 上 bit.ly 短網址 - [x] https://bit.ly/cofacts26-1 ([樣板檔](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K_2WYW-yZ2gbQbFteJxNfrx9xKHBtKbq6ejsuZ2B8OU/edit#gid=0)) - [x] https://bit.ly/cofacts26-2 ([樣板檔](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j75M_qh7s1JE0hUx3YQHN6-ncL6u2gMCdoHfm1sweeI/edit#gid=0)) - [x] 準備 Slido `#cofacts26` - [x] 放投影片網址 + spreadsheet 1 - 13:00 - 準備 - [x] 產生「有回過、沒 feedback」 spreadsheet [name=nonumpa] - 每人 20 篇 - 50 人 - 只產出 `repliedButNotEnoughFeedback` 的網址 - [x] 匯入進 https://bit.ly/cofacts26-1 - [x] 產生「沒回過」spreadsheet - 每人 5 篇 - 50 人 - 只產出 `newest, mostAsked` 的網址 - [x] 匯入進 https://bit.ly/cofacts26-2 - [ ] 投影的電腦用 google chrome 開好 - [x] Google Chrome tab: [投影片](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1N9DxoN1NuxdtQILkcV67y_q8EM8CJF5GhoYLcCKFpAc/edit) - [x] Google Chrome tab: [Instant](https://cofacts.github.io/community-builder/#/bignum?start=2021-09-25T14%3A00&panels=replied&panels=feedback) - [x] Google Chrome tab: [KKTIX](https://cofacts.kktix.cc/events/cofacteditor26) - [x] Google Chrome tab: [Slido admin](https://admin.sli.do/event/fo3sdxrl/questions) - [x] Google Chrome tab: [Slido](https://wall.sli.do/event/fo3sdxrl?section=308e5910-c377-408b-afaa-7808f3edd70f) - [x] Google Chrome tab: [開場影片](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8KCDL90tNWn16J2xBzl53imUiDbNOzs) - [ ] BGM - 14:00 - 14:20 開場 - 用 jitsi 分享影片功能放[影片](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8KCDL90tNWn16J2xBzl53imUiDbNOzs) 8min - 闢謠編輯現身 only https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkwOLicel4A - Slido 、Cofacts 機器人系統簡介 - 14:20 - 14:40:介紹 mission 1 - 按讚 - 介紹「幫回應按讚」的用途,以及怎麼做;什麼樣的回應可以按「有用」、哪些可以跳過、哪些真的母湯要按「沒用」,如何就事論事的給 feedback - 14:40 - 15:00:按讚時間 - 讓大家從 Slido 打開 spreadsheet 1,直接點進自己號碼的那個 sheet - 然後幫每一篇按有用或沒用 - 提醒 15:00 結束時會問大家有沒有想要分享的心得 - 15:00 - 15:20:介紹 mission 2 - 寫新回應 - 問有沒有人想要分享心得請舉手 :hand: - 如何找全文、拆解回應、附出處 - 15:20 - 15:50:挑回應來回 - 大家從 Slido 打開 spreadsheet 2,直接點進自己號碼牌的那個 sheet - 先挑選「一篇」覺得最有興趣的回 - 回完之後如果行有餘力,再挑一篇 - 如果都覺得不想回,去「等你來答」挑,不要硬回 XDDD - 15:50 - 16:00 - 介紹 RSS、文章列表、filter 功能 - 最後拍合照 ---- 研究 jitsi alternative - webex, line 不方便 只要連結:zoom, jitsi, meet - meet: 4000 的 google meet enterprise :::danger - 週四晚上重測 jitsi - Alternative: 4000 的 meet Findings - Firefox 使用者投影,其他使用者有機會看不到 - Firefox 使用者也有機會看不到其他人的投影 - Google chrome 使用者投影,Google chrome 使用者看得到 - Google chrome 使用者在 jitsi 打字,即使在組字狀態按 enter 也會送出訊息,要小心 - 權限沒開會看不到:chrome->右上角三點選取設定->網站設定->麥克風/攝影機 允許jitsi連結 結論 - 使用 Google chrome + jitsi - 活動時確認大家看得到投影,如果有人看不到就請他更換到 Google chrome ::: ## 清除 empty reply FB 上已經公告一週:https://www.facebook.com/groups/cofacts/posts/3087699461461862/ ## Nginx log - aws access - organization: nonumpa, 4000 - Usage - Retention: 3 months - 1 week, 350MB --> 1.5G per month, 4.5G in total - Pricing: https://aws.amazon.com/tw/cloudwatch/pricing/ - analysis - chatbot, website, API 通通合在一起,分不太開 QQ ## 真的假的 <> TM Check - 先下架會讓使用者誤會(有個資疑慮)的 LIFF - Cofacts 實作 redirect LIFF: - LINE LIFF 的環境: - In-app browser - external browser - LIFF browser: `liff.isInClient() === true`,無須登入即可拿到使用者資訊 - 在 Android 上,in-app browser 任何網頁的 `<a>` 或 `location.href = '...'` 打開 liff.line.me/XXXX ,會自動進入 LIFF browser - iOS 尚待確認 - 目前實作: - https://github.com/cofacts/rumors-line-bot/pull/292/files - 在 `/liff/index.html` 之外另外產出 `/liff/redirect.html` - 用 line-bot.cofacts.tw 網址而非 liff.line.me 網址,觸發 external browser / in-web browser - 共用 index.css 與 google font 等設定 - UI:![](https://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/g0v-hackmd-images/uploads/upload_9ce67d7d4aad7fbafc8a3cb227fea45c.png =x400) - 右上與下方 CTA 點按後都會打開 liff.line.me 網域的網址 - 其他 TODO - `replyId` 不存在的問題:https://github.com/cofacts/rumors-line-bot/issues/291 - [bot link feature](https://developers.line.biz/en/docs/line-login/link-a-bot/) 不是預設打勾 - 可以考慮開成 aggressive - 因為使用者還沒進到 LIFF 就問加好友,覺得可能會有反效果 [name=mrorz] - 可以用 [`liff.getFriendship()`](https://developers.line.biz/en/reference/liff/#get-friendship) 偵測 friendship,若無則建議「加 真的假的 好友,若有新回應會通知,也可以看之前查過的訊息」 - 如果已經加好友,也可以偵測使用者是否有開啟 notification,若無則提供[開起小鈴鐺](https://github.com/cofacts/rumors-line-bot/pull/228)訊息連到 settings page

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